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	<title>Comments on: Starting with Haskell</title>
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		<title>By: Jorge Tavares</title>
		<link>http://jorgetavares.com/2009/10/16/starting-with-haskell/#comment-79</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a good question you make since there are lots of things I like about Clojure too. I must say my experience with it is limited. Perhaps I didn&#039;t give it enough time. 

To keep it short, the points I don&#039;t enjoy so much in Clojure are, above all, more subjective than technical. For example, it has too much syntax; it feels &quot;unlispy&quot; sometimes. It &quot;forces&quot; you to know and use Java to gain the most from the language. Using libraries (Java ones) does not seem natural in a certain way - it looks ugly. 

Things like this make me feel a bit uncomfortable while programming with Clojure. Like I said, it&#039;s more of a personal thing than technical. 

To conclude, in my mind, a Lisp is a language that adapts itself to the problem you want to solve and not the other way around, i.e., you adapt your problem to the language. And Clojure, in my opinion, is the least successful Lisp in this regard. 

Cheers!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a good question you make since there are lots of things I like about Clojure too. I must say my experience with it is limited. Perhaps I didn&#8217;t give it enough time. </p>
<p>To keep it short, the points I don&#8217;t enjoy so much in Clojure are, above all, more subjective than technical. For example, it has too much syntax; it feels &#8220;unlispy&#8221; sometimes. It &#8220;forces&#8221; you to know and use Java to gain the most from the language. Using libraries (Java ones) does not seem natural in a certain way &#8211; it looks ugly. </p>
<p>Things like this make me feel a bit uncomfortable while programming with Clojure. Like I said, it&#8217;s more of a personal thing than technical. </p>
<p>To conclude, in my mind, a Lisp is a language that adapts itself to the problem you want to solve and not the other way around, i.e., you adapt your problem to the language. And Clojure, in my opinion, is the least successful Lisp in this regard. </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge Tavares</title>
		<link>http://jorgetavares.com/2009/10/16/starting-with-haskell/#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jorge Tavares]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the visit and the submission. Just started exploring Haskell but so far I am enjoying it very much. Today I did four more chapters in the tutorial and now it&#039;s time to code a bit more to consolidate what I&#039;ve learned. I&#039;ll try to keep it posted :-)

I&#039;ve just subscribed haskell-cafe and haskell-beginners as well as the feeds for planet haskell and reddit. I guess it will be a little overwhelming now but let&#039;s see.

Cheers!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the visit and the submission. Just started exploring Haskell but so far I am enjoying it very much. Today I did four more chapters in the tutorial and now it&#8217;s time to code a bit more to consolidate what I&#8217;ve learned. I&#8217;ll try to keep it posted :-)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just subscribed haskell-cafe and haskell-beginners as well as the feeds for planet haskell and reddit. I guess it will be a little overwhelming now but let&#8217;s see.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: sriram srinivasan</title>
		<link>http://jorgetavares.com/2009/10/16/starting-with-haskell/#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sriram srinivasan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was curious about what you didn&#039;t like about Clojure. It seems to me one of the cleanest and most functional (as in with most functionality) lisps I have seen. 

How does the fact that it runs on a JVM affect your experience? Is it speed? Portability? Bare-metal executables?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was curious about what you didn&#8217;t like about Clojure. It seems to me one of the cleanest and most functional (as in with most functionality) lisps I have seen. </p>
<p>How does the fact that it runs on a JVM affect your experience? Is it speed? Portability? Bare-metal executables?</p>
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		<title>By: yitz</title>
		<link>http://jorgetavares.com/2009/10/16/starting-with-haskell/#comment-76</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the nice post. It was featured today on the Haskell Reddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/).

Enjoy your journey into Haskell. Don&#039;t forget to visit us on the
#haskell Freenode IRC channel, and on the haskell-cafe mailing list at haskell.org.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the nice post. It was featured today on the Haskell Reddit (<a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/" rel="nofollow">http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/</a>).</p>
<p>Enjoy your journey into Haskell. Don&#8217;t forget to visit us on the<br />
#haskell Freenode IRC channel, and on the haskell-cafe mailing list at haskell.org.</p>
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